Here a trigger, there a trigger...

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October 15, 2009 at 8:02 pm #4739

onefunzr2
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Well fellas, remember this post by NE 450 #2??? I couldn’t link directly because the thread got locked down.

Now I do not want to start a Hanfield and McCoy Fued, or hurt any Blaser Pro Members feelings….

But I just dryfired 4 R 93 recievers that I had quick access to and not one of them had ANY creep.

They all broke like a glass rod,and a very thin one at that.

I have pulled the trigger [durring live fire] on at least 22 different R 93’s that I can remember off the top of my head.

NONE of them had ANY creep.

Methinks some of you guys have “creepy fingers”. 🙄 😯 😳 😆 😀

Let me reiterate, NOT ONE of those 22 R-93 triggers had even a smidgen of creep. Remember that as I tell my tale.

I just got off the phone with Andrej Gorjup, Blaser’s one and only working gunsmith. He received my rifle yesterday and had a chance to fondle it. His very first statement after reading my enclosed letter describing the excessive creep problem, was that there is a new & improved trigger available for the R93 that will improve the creepy trigger problem. Wait. He can’t adjust my OEM trigger to NE 450 #2’s standards? Nope, he said in his German accent. That style of trigger will always have a measurable amount of creep. Imagine that? So, he said, he could try and adjust it for a lessor amount of creep, but he doubted I’d think it any better. There’s just so much he can do with that old style trigger. Hmmm? 22 to 1 just doesn’t seem fair, does it?

I suppose the way to go is the new style trigger. He might have called it a single stage trigger but I just couldn’t get my mind wrapped around the words inflected by his accent even though he said it a few times in our 10 minute conversation. No matter. Can you imagine, this new style does not allow for variable pull weights? It comes in, basically, 3 versions. I’ll call them benchrest, varmint, and hunting. The former is measured in ounces; the latter is 3.4 pounds of pull…a tad heavy for me, but what the hell can you expect from a new style trigger; a dead nuts 3# pull? Apparently not! User adjustable? No way.
It’s the Ron Popeil pull weight type of trigger. I’m not sure which line is more apropos: “Set it, and forget it!,” “But wait, there’s more!” or my all time fave, “Now how much would you pay?” If Andrej was a better pitchman, he’d call it the Blas-O-Matic! And once again only adjustable by a Blaser-trained gunsmith. And of course, installing this new wunder trigger is not covered under Blaser’s 10 year warranty. I’m not surprised.
I refuse to keep playing russian roulette with the from here to Texas package handlers, so I opted for the new, improved, no creep, $125 trigger. It really was a no-brain decision.

But hej, no creep! In reality, a Jewell, Timney, Rifle Basix or other comparable replacement trigger costs the same or more. So by Blaser standards this installed trigger is a bloody bargain!

I thought Blaser had me by the balls before. MOD DELETE OF SMILEY Now I’ve sunk another 170 bucks into this money pit. It better be worth it.
If anything, this wunder trigger will be a terrific selling point if it doesn’t meet my satisfaction. After all, it’s the latest and greatest.
October 16, 2009 at 5:00 am #7191

N E 450 No2
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Well I hope you get your rifle back with a trigger to your satisfaction.

But, I just again dry fired those same R 93’s. On does have a little more overtravel than the others, but I can detect no creep, they all break like a glass rod…

Maybe I hust got lucky…

I have had triggers that were lighter… Double and single set triggers, Canjar light pull etc. but I am perfectly happy with my R 93 triggers…
October 16, 2009 at 1:42 pm #7192

ChopperGuy
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Get a clue! 🙄

Take up does NOT equal creep.

Every non-hair/set/match (or what ever you want to call it) trigger has some take up.

It’s the break that Tony is talking about. It’s the break we are all talking about.

That’s why they have match, hunting and varmint triggers.

The price of a match custom trigger on a Rem 700 properly installed and adjusted starts around $200.

Sounds like the Blaser cost for a trigger like that is pretty reasonable.

Maybe we all got lucky.

Give it a break (pun intended) and we all hope it is fixed to your satisfaction.
October 16, 2009 at 4:48 pm #7193

spiraleal
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That trigger Anrej is putting in is one of the best triggers I have felt. It is a true single stage, all single stage triggers have movement before it drops, but that”drop” is crisp and breaks like a glass rod. It took 3 trips back to Blaser, but I am thoroughly happy with the trigger. I also have had 2 Marine snipers shoot my LRS, they both admired the trigger. I am not a stranger to triggers, I own high end Remmys with Jewel’s in them, I will put my LRS in par with them in quality, and Andrej was a gentleman and even threw in a hat! Thanks,,Dean
October 17, 2009 at 3:43 pm #7194

spiraleal
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You are not nuts, the OEM triggers have problems, If you ajust them too light they have abnormal wear on the sear surface which makes them unreliable, the new trigger alleviates this problem with a slightly different shape and tighter tolerances, this new trigger is a match grade. Also I do not know why they are charging you, this is a clear defect, they should have made it right without cost! You will love the new trigger!
October 17, 2009 at 5:59 pm #7195

onefunzr2
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spiraleal, when Andrej changed out the trigger mechanism in your rifle, did he send the OEM trigger back to you, or keep it? When I asked for him to return the old trigger to me along with the repaired rifle, he said that is not normal practice and he’d have to check with Rich. In your case, if it was fixed under warranty, they have every right to keep the original part. But I am paying $125 for my replacement (perhaps because I’m not the original owner) and so I reasoned that I can lay claim to the takeoff trigger and any other parts that are being replaced to get this R93 to properly function like all the other folks on this board who are ‘just peachy’ with their Blaser products.
October 17, 2009 at 9:51 pm #7196

spiraleal
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No, I did not get it back, since you trigger was replaced not under warranty you own the original part, I would want it back, I would bitch, if you need my help please im me and leave you number ,I will give you a call to try to help, Andrej owes me a favor.
October 20, 2009 at 1:07 am #7197

spiraleal
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Was my last post edited? Is that a bad word? BITC*****?I did not intend it to be, I was merely stating that I would complain in normal speech, sorry I offended. Why are onefunzr2 posts being deleted? Is he offending? Thanks,Dean
October 20, 2009 at 12:16 pm #7198

onefunzr2
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@spiraleal wrote:

Why are onefunzr2 posts being deleted? Is he offending? Thanks,Dean

In a word, YES. A PM to me from Capt Dave has informed me that a mod by the name of Mike has deleted my posts. Why?

1. Almost 20 posts in over 1 year, about this creepy trigger problem I’m having, is considered excessive.
2. Asking for help in my own inelegant way constitutes WHINING. I am a whiner that needs to be put in my place. My posts were deleted because they were deemed “in bad taste.” Yet, not surprisingly, those posts by fellow member ‘Chopper guy’ who has his nose out of joint about my problem, remain. Go figure.

For goodness sakes, Dave & Mike (who I suspect is username Chopguy) are equating me with the kind of trolls who constantly go on gun sites ranting how every Blaser will blow a barrel or bolt and kill you. How very wrong they are.

So much for free speech on this board. Get out of line and POOF! your words magically disappear.

I’m waiting for my R93 to return from Texas.
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